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Policy Forum Pod: Counter-terrorism and civil liberties

19 November 2018

In the wake of the Bourke street knife attack in Melbourne, this week’s Policy Forum Pod takes a look at whether security and freedom must always be a zero-sum game.

An apparent terrorist attack in the heart of Melbourne has ignited a familiar debate over whether Australia has got its counter-terrorism policy settings right – and what proposed legislative changes might mean for civil liberties.

On this week’s podcast, hosts Nicky Lovegrove and Sharon Bessell hear from a national security expert, a legal scholar and an ethicist about encrypted communication, detention without charge, democratic accountability, and whether terrorism receives a disproportionate amount of concern from policymakers.

Listen to the podcast here.

Jacinta Carroll is the Director of National Security Policy at the ANU National Security College. Previously, Jacinta was the inaugural Head of the Counter-Terrorism Policy Centre at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

Dominique Dalla-Pozza is a Senior Lecturer at the ANU College of Law and was the co-convenor of the ACT chapter of the Electoral Regulation Research Network. Her research deals with Australian Public Law and Australian National Security Law.

Christian Barry is Professor of Philosophy at the ANU Research School of Social Sciences, and Co-Editor of the Journal of Political Philosophy. His research focuses on ethical theory, philosophy of action, and international justice.

Show notes | The following were referred to in this episode:

Poverty: In Focus – a special section of Policy Forum guest edited by Sharon Bessell

How Russia is fuelling Asia – by Elizabeth Buchanan

Podcast: Rusted off – with Gabrielle Chan, Peter Holding, Denis Ginnivan, and Carolyn Hendriks

Podcast: Why prevention policies fail – with Paul Cairney and Gemma Carey

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This episode of Policy Forum Pod was written and produced by Julia Ahrens.

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