National Security Pod: Women in National Security – episode 4

28 October 2018

On this fourth of five special episodes brought to you from the Women in National Security Conference, Chantal de Jonge Oudraat takes a look at rising global tensions, the gendered politics of terrorism, and why women need a seat at international negotiating tables.

Hosted by the ANU National Security College, the Women in National Security Conference is a forum on the participation of women in Australia’s future national security policy and practice – and the National Security Podcast is here to bring you the highlights.

On this fourth episode of the series, Chris Farnham hears from Assistant Minister for Home Affairs Linda Reynolds about her career in the national security community, chats to Lydia Khalil about the fall of ISIS and the future of the Caliphate, and catches up with some participants of the conference. Then, as the feature interview for this podcast, Katherine Mansted from the National Security College chats to Chantal de Jonge Oudraat, President of Women in International Security (WIIS). Topics discussed include the changing nature of global conflict; the impact of women on peace negotiations; and why the world is making slow progress on the Women, Peace and Security agenda. This episode is hosted by Gabrielle Kneipp.

Listen to the podcast here.

Senator Linda Reynolds is Assistant Minister for Home Affairs. She has more than 20 years’ experience at the national political level working for Ministers, Members of Parliament and the Liberal Party of Australia. She served for 29 years in the Australian Army as a Reserve Officer, in a wide range of part and full-time appointments.

Lydia Khalil is Research Fellow for the West Asia Program at the Lowy Institute. Her professional background in politics, international relations and security has focused on US national security policy, Middle East politics and intelligence.

Chantal de Jonge Oudraat is President of Women in International Security (WIIS). She was the founding and executive director of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) North America from 2012 to 2014.

Katherine Mansted joined the National Security College as a Senior Researcher in 2018. Katherine’s professional background includes work in both law and government. She has been a commercial solicitor with King & Wood Mallesons, ministerial adviser to the federal government, and served as an Associate in the High Court of Australia to now Chief Justice Kiefel.

Chris Farnham is the presenter of the National Security Podcast. He joined the National Security College in June 2015 as Policy and Events Officer. His career focus has been on geopolitics with experience working in and out of China for a number of years as well as operating in Australia and Southeast Asia.

Gabrielle Kneipp is Executive Officer at the National Security College. She is currently on secondment from the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet and studying a Bachelor of Arts in International Studies/Communication in Journalism.

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This episode of the National Security Podcast was edited by Edwina Landale and Martyn Pearce.

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